The Economist has an article out about the possible effects on housing when 78 million baby boomers retire, drawing from a report published this month in the Journal of the American Planning Association. The authors of the report are Dowell Myers, a professor of urban planning and demography in the School of Policy, Planning and Development at the University of Southern California, and SungHo Ryu, an associate planner with the Southern California Association of Governments:
"For three decades baby-boomers have helped push prices up: they settled down, then bought bigger houses and second homes. But as the first of them celebrate their 65th birthdays in 2011, this may change. The old sell more homes than they buy, according to data covering 1995-2000 (see chart). The ratio of old to working-age people is expected to grow by 67% over the next two decades. Will the younger generation be able to buy all the homes on the market?The Wall Street Journal also has some commentary on this in an article entitled "Why Baby Boomers May Bust the Housing Market".
Young adults make up the bulk of new demand, with most purchasing homes when they reach their early 30s. The flood of elderly people selling their homes, Mr Myers suggests, may lead to a drawn-out buyers' market. Prices may fall further as younger people, perceiving a downturn, delay purchasing".
In some states – namely Connecticut, Hawaii, New York, North Dakota, Pennsylvania and West Virginia – the process has already begun, with sellers starting to outnumber buyers, Mr. Myers says. He contends that the East Coast, particular Maryland and states north, face a double hurdle because there aren’t enough young people to pick up the slack as boomers sell off and because prices are so high that many will not be able to afford these homes.In the past few years, some housing talk has centered around young people expressing concerns about not only paying more taxes for social welfare programs, but also funding someone's retirement in Florida or Arizona by buying their overpriced house.
“In some states like New Jersey, it could be 20 years before prices recover,” he says, explaining that the generational trend is one that could stretch for decades.
Here's an ad from last year posted by one of our commenters in this thread:
14XXX Legend Glen Court
Gainesville, VA 20155
ATTENTION ATTENTION: Husband needs to retire. Bring any Reasonable OFFERS for us to consider and Pre-approval from bank to OPEN HOUSE THIS SUNDAY 6/24 or call us for private showing. ALL PAPERWORK will be done by licensed agent.
The poster (John) noted the original list price was $475,000 and was reduced to $389,900 after a year on the market. The house was purchased on 6/30/2003 for $250,000. Currently the lowest-priced house on the street is $299,900, and the most expensive is $349,900.
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My dad has a place in Florida and one in Michigan. He's whats called a snow-bird. He's tired of the upkeep and travel and cannot sell either. 18 months ago he put up his place in Florida for sale because he knew no one was buying in Michigan. And because of the hurricains the insurance company would only pay out a maximum of 40,000, no matter the value of the home. He priced his house double his purchase price from 5 years previous... no takers... um ever. I told him back then he needed to price it to move, he said "I'm not going to give it away!"
Last month, he priced it for what he owes on it. One person offered to trade houses. So now he is stuck with two houses. He does not owe a lot, but he is not enjoying retirement either.
It took something like 100 years for the US to go from 100 million to 200 million people ...but only 30 years for it to go from 200 million to 300 million. While turnover of housing from aged to young factors into pricing, it doesn't weigh in to the extent implied in this post. After all, they aren't making any more land ... but they are making lots more babies ... and immigrants.
John,
Sorry to hear about your Dad's troubles.
Lance,
The 2006 fertility rate of 2.1 children is the highest level since 1971. There's a 35-year gap to fill, and these new babies born two years ago won't be ready to buy a house until at least 20 years from now.
Immigrants we have a lot of, but they are currently defaulting in droves around here. I don't have statistics at hand, but it doesn't seem likely they can be counted on to buy all the boomers' houses for a while yet.
But to add to that Lance, I don't entirely discount your point and the future (especially demographics) always has variables we haven't even thought of yet.
"these new babies born two years ago won't be ready to buy a house until at least 20 years from now."
We need a bigger house.
Lets get a place with a yard for the kids.
If we lived closer to work, I could be home when school is out.
etc.
My dad made his own troubles. He felt he was owed a 100% profit on a place he owned 5 years. Hence the "I'm not giving it away!" statement he made.
We cannot only blame the buyers of overpriced homes for the current housing meltdown. The sellers who had room to move are also to blame. The mentality my father displayed was rampant in sellers, and housing sales stalled.
Not that my father is at forclosers door, but, if a retiree defaults on a mortgage do they go after retirement monies?
Wouldn't you expect the mortgage company to go after whatever money he has? I don't think they care about where he gets it, only that he give it to them.
kh,
Your point is legitimate. I'm in a situation like that myself.
But in the end, finances just don't support the decision. Would it be great to have a bigger house, bigger yard, and live closer to work? Absolutely.
Can I afford it? Absolutely not. So we all pitch in and deal with the smaller house, smaller yard, and longer commute. And those folks 'closer in' who are holding out for me to buy their higher priced house... will continue to wait.
"Can I afford it? Absolutely not. So we all pitch in and deal with the smaller house, smaller yard, and longer commute. And those folks 'closer in' who are holding out for me to buy their higher priced house... will continue to wait."
Some of them will have to wait a long time.
There are houses and there are houses. Consider 3107 RUSSELL RD, ALEXANDRIA, VA - $2,200,000. This is a spec-house in my area.
Looks to me like someone will take a haircut on this one. What are they thinking? 2.2 Mill in this market?
On the other hand, 120 CLIFFORD AVE, ALEXANDRIA, VA - $250,000 was sold in 2006 PEREZ ANTONIA F to ALVARADO LORENA LOPEZ ANGEL R, 06/28/2006
$385,000
It's in fashionable Del Ray but on the wrong side of Mt. Vernon Ave. Probably needs $20K of work but that could be budgeted over a few years. I'm suspicious of the window AC on a house with a heatpump.
It's a row house but comes with 3 off-street spaces.
120 Clifford is the exact opposite of 3107 Russell road. $250K, a quarter million, is not chump change but that buys a modest TH in a possibly rising, very close in neighborhood.
I would not want to raise a family there but if I were starting out, I'd give it serious consideration. Maybe trade up in a few years to a SFH.
kh,
Those last two you're showing are much more reasonable; but they're not for me.
PWC may seem like a long way out, but I probably have a better commute from where I am than from either of those locations. HOV + slug + public transit (bus) options are much better here than from most of Fairfax/Alexandria. Even parts of Arlington. I don't have to drive to work. If I lived in Alexandria, I probably would. Gas wouldn't be that much, but extra mileage means more maintenance, and higher insurance; and the non-monetary cost of my higher stress levels.
The townhouse looks metro-able, but then we're forsaking the SFH/yard aspect.
The really crazy thing is that the townhouse we're renting is the same model/location as townhouses that are selling for anywhere from $280K-$330K. There's no reason for it to be more expensive here than in Alexandria.
And the rent I'm paying definitely doesn't support the pricetag.
"but they're not for me"
It's location, location, and maybe personal choices.
120 Clifford may prove "the bubble will come to Alexandria" theory.
I expect it will sell quickly and for comfortably above the asking.
It's a TH for less than many condo's and not much more than 1/1 garden apartments.
The fertility rate was so high because there are so many illegal immigrants (mainly hispanic) and they had an average of 3.4 children, the highest by far of any ethnic group.
Not coincidentally the markets the the biggest trouble (California, Arizona, Florida) have extremely high numbers of illegal immigrants.
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